RE: Jivana's ... "If anyone is wondering why I ask this, I think there
may be some interesting subtleties revealed about the difference in the
energetics of mind driven dialogs, and feeling driven ones. Just
maybe..Any thoughts about that Robert?" Well to start with, I think I
just crapped my pants, LOL. Sheezuz Jivana ... does the power of your
being know NO boundaries? Wow ... such a question. You know it's been a
very long time since I've received such a important and powerful
invitiation like this that nearly blew my noggin off. Bare with me while
struggle to regain my calm and breath.
You know, I mean to answer your question, I can't think of a greater
example than what just happpened. Maybe you'd need to be here next to me
to observe the distinction between being driven mentally(intelletually)
in contrast to getting driven and feeling it. For sure, discussion
between men rarely include silent pauses allowing a person to process
felt sensation as a natural part of the discussion. I'm not saying that
men don't still do this but they do not share it and they certainly
don't draw attention to it.
This brings us to what to make of the possibiity for men to properly
engage their femiinity in the felt sense in discussion and relationship,
and how to support it for the natural soulful liberty it affords one's
being. I can imagine what is going through the minds of those men
reading my words right now who make up the bulk of typical male
interactiveness which could be characterized as competitive, and
emotionally immature to some degree with almost every single man.
Compared with women, where their discussion is punctuated continuously
with certain sometimes infintesimal pauses in which focus is shifted
entirely on the heart with the support and full appreciation of those
women listeners present. Masculine energy does not curl up in a cuddling
circle. It's potential was found in being unbreakable, unstoppable,
overpowering, and noble. That's a historical perspective however I don't
see much that has changed. The impulse still remains, untrained,
unconscious, undifferentiated and not sublimated. The obvious results of
such concentrations of masculine vs feminine energetically in
discussion groups can be worked out along the characteristic dimensions
as I have begun to suggest.
Part of what remains to be cleared before we evolve sexualpolitcally has
to do with expectations. It's hard to imagine what precepitious
condition could account for men anticipating a felt meaningful sense
from his compadrades in the splitsecond pause required for the heart to
breath and speak. The best I've encounterd so far in terms of an overt
acknowledgement indicating that a friend of mine had "GOTTEN" a felt
sense loud enough to say something about it was nevertheless constrained
by a competitive context and a visual orientation. Given the modality
expectation you can see how his statement, "Look at him, you can see the
wheels turning inside his head." represents those cognitive channels.
The only suggestion in support of Jivana's issue here for men would be
to quietly focus over the next few days in your conversations with other
men on your heart and the degree of energetic harmony being radiated
within it as well as between your heart and the other's. Some of you may
find this a rather impossible request, as you simply return to your
dualistic rationalizations in progress.
I do the best I can at keeping myself exposed to feminine energy and
beingness because I have yet to come to any satisfactory balance within
myself on this issue, but I hope I have been of some help and provided a
little clarity for Jivana's issue and for the benefit of the men she is
addressing.
You know, I mean to answer your question, I can't think of a greater example than what just happpened. Maybe you'd need to be here next to me to observe the distinction between being driven mentally(intelletually) in contrast to getting driven and feeling it. For sure, discussion between men rarely include silent pauses allowing a person to process felt sensation as a natural part of the discussion. I'm not saying that men don't still do this but they do not share it and they certainly don't draw attention to it.
This brings us to what to make of the possibiity for men to properly engage their femiinity in the felt sense in discussion and relationship, and how to support it for the natural soulful liberty it affords one's being. I can imagine what is going through the minds of those men reading my words right now who make up the bulk of typical male interactiveness which could be characterized as competitive, and emotionally immature to some degree with almost every single man. Compared with women, where their discussion is punctuated continuously with certain sometimes infintesimal pauses in which focus is shifted entirely on the heart with the support and full appreciation of those women listeners present. Masculine energy does not curl up in a cuddling circle. It's potential was found in being unbreakable, unstoppable, overpowering, and noble. That's a historical perspective however I don't see much that has changed. The impulse still remains, untrained, unconscious, undifferentiated and not sublimated. The obvious results of such concentrations of masculine vs feminine energetically in discussion groups can be worked out along the characteristic dimensions as I have begun to suggest.
Part of what remains to be cleared before we evolve sexualpolitcally has to do with expectations. It's hard to imagine what precepitious condition could account for men anticipating a felt meaningful sense from his compadrades in the splitsecond pause required for the heart to breath and speak. The best I've encounterd so far in terms of an overt acknowledgement indicating that a friend of mine had "GOTTEN" a felt sense loud enough to say something about it was nevertheless constrained by a competitive context and a visual orientation. Given the modality expectation you can see how his statement, "Look at him, you can see the wheels turning inside his head." represents those cognitive channels.
The only suggestion in support of Jivana's issue here for men would be to quietly focus over the next few days in your conversations with other men on your heart and the degree of energetic harmony being radiated within it as well as between your heart and the other's. Some of you may find this a rather impossible request, as you simply return to your dualistic rationalizations in progress.
I do the best I can at keeping myself exposed to feminine energy and beingness because I have yet to come to any satisfactory balance within myself on this issue, but I hope I have been of some help and provided a little clarity for Jivana's issue and for the benefit of the men she is addressing.